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Great article! I'm curious as to how speed interacts with density. I'm under the impression it becomes less important when density is very high? The example I can think of is the Paris metro with its low commercial speed of 25kph averaged across the legacy lines (I believe the NYC subway is almost as slow). Yet it is obviously a very successful system since there's such a high concentration of origins and destinations in the vicinity of basically every station. Would it be useful to also think of speed in the sense of the number destinations made available to a user within a given timeframe? I suppose you could argue that with Paris, what you lose in vehicle speed, you retake in walking time since your origin and destination are very likely to be close to your station? Even more so since Paris stations tend to be shallow, although on the other hand this aspect is weakened by the poor quality of transfers. Ultimately that could even be an argument in favor of at-grade trams since the access point is more seamless.

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Yet another spectacular article! Sometimes in recent years I have heard "accessibility (to destinations) matters, not mobility," but really both matter. Transit usually has to be somewhat time-competitive with cars if it is to be successful. (I worry that NYC, which generally suffers from "schedule degradation syndrome" where almost every subway or commuter rail used to have a higher scheduled speed than it currently does, we have become way too complacent about speed.)

Also, you have inspired me to make an idealized map for NYC... it would probably help to show how un-layered so much our transit is (express buses go all the way to Manhattan instead of feeding rail, commuter rail has very few inner-city stops, etc.)

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